From 1975 to 80

1975 Honda TL 250

(Honda Code 376)


In April 1974 Sammy Miller flew from Heathrow to Tokyo, Japan. Sammy signed a contract with Honda for the new range trials bikes development.

Sammy was impressed on his first travel to Honda R&D headquarters. High security level, special sections constructed for testing new trials bikes, and everybody waiting for him.

He started working with the TL125 and XL250 engine. The TL125 was the first Honda Trials attempt using the small 121,9cc two-valve sohc engine from the SL125 Trail Honda.

Honda R&D team was benn placed at Sammy's disposal to develop the new Honda Trials bike and Sammy decided to start with the XL250, but found a lot of difficulties to adapt it from the Trails needs to Trials requirements.

Sammy did a giant work on this development, big efforts to improve carburation, completely new frame (he based on its also designed High-Boy for the Bultaco trials), new upper yokes, also replaced the rims for alloy ones, and a lot of work on the suspension definition.
The silencer was also redefinedto obtain the maximum efficency. 

In 1974 Sammy scored several wins on the Honda 250 first prototype. In October of this year, Sammy Miller won his first victory with the second prototype Honda at Sturminister Newton Trial at Gillingham.


Picture thanks to the website friend Justyn Norek

 
Picture thanks to the website friend Justyn Norek ©

This second prototype had a 248,6cc (74 X 57,8mm) alloy cylinder barrel with chromed bore, four-valves, using 24mm Keihin carburetor. 

This prototype was famous for having the number plate SAM 1N.



Picture thanks to the website friend Justyn Norek ©
In 1975 the TL250 production started. The first details for this bike anounced a power output 16,5 Hp at 7.000 rpm, but finally the satandard production reduced that at 16 Hp at 8.000 rpm. Honda produced roughly 4.000 bikes mostly for the Us market. The USA rider Marland Whaley was riding with this bike at those years.

The bike inherited the TL125 design. Price was somewhat cheaper than Spanish bikes.


The ENGINE

Four stroke single Cylinder OHC Displacement: 248cc Bore and Stroke: 74mm x 57.8mm Compression ratio: 9.1:1 Clutch: wet multy-plate Ignition: Flywheel magneto   The TRANSMISSION Five speed, constant mesh   The FRAME Wheelbase: 1.333mm Weight: 99Kg. Tyre size 2.75 x 21, 4.00 x 18 Telescopic front forks Rear swing arm suspension                                    
  The nice Honda TL250 was painted Honda Metallic Silver and the nice Honda Red Accent color.

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Great picture of Derek Edgar at SSDT 1977, thanks to John Moffat. Moffat's Picture © Derek worked at the Puch factory, Graz, Austria and then worked for Montesa in the USA. He was one of Scotland's best trials riders, along with his elder brother Norman and both rode in the 1968 ISDT in Italy, then Derek rode again in 1969 - Garmisch Partenkirchen and 1970 at El Escorial, Madrid!  
Funny TL250 picture thanks to Eddy Galea
 

Thanks to my friend Patrick and son to sent me this nice picture for Christmas time.

                         Thanks to Patrick again for this picture with the nice TL250

1975 Honda bikes

1975 TL 125 High-Boy     
In 1975 Sammy Miller introduced a big improvement on the TL125 frame. He developed a new frame for the 125/150 Honda. This frame was built using Renolds 531 tubes and saves more than 11Kg and was finished chromiud plated. The sump shield was screwed. High-Boy frame was designed to accept all the standard Honda 125 parts.

  The High-boy Sammy Myller frame was 11Kg lighter than the standard Honda TL125 frame.















An original one High-boy Sammy frame using an XL180 engine. The picture was sent by Dean Horwood from UK.

Thanks to Alan Johnstone for these pictures of a original Hi-Boy frame. This one, under restoring, is numbered as 226, and as Alan says less than 500 units of the original 1970's were made.
According the information I have I don't know any number higher than 400.



Thanks also to Frank Brzeski for to send me these interesting projects. First we can see two Hi-Bot frames, one original from the 70's and second one a 2010 reproduction. The most interesting is that on following pictures you can see the original one mounted with a 1978 TL125 engine and the 2010 frame assembled with a TLR200 engine, both projects thanks to Frank.



Hi-Boy original frame mounted with a 1978 TL125 engine




Hi-Boy 2010 frame assembled with a TLR200 engine





XL125 engine, hand made parts approaching RS200 look, thanks to Gabriele Milan  

  Thanks to Robert Russell for this nice black painted High boy TL frame, with suzuki forks and home made silencer, 200 cc displacement.

1976 Honda bikes

 

1976 the Honda Derek Green XL250 
  Photo taken by Jimmy Young © thanks to John Moffat.


 This nice and rare Honda trials was built at the shop of Vic Allan Motorcycles in Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland during the 1975/76 season by the mechanic Derek Green. 

It was a 250 XL Motorsport Honda converted for trials similar to the Jefferies Honda. 

 Later it was attached to a sidecar for a while. 

 Mudguards were Italian StilMotor, most parts are Honda, except the tank made by Homerlite, England

. Shocks were Girling Gas Shocks.
 Bike information also thanks to John.
 

1976 the Honda TL50 (Honda Code 150)

The TL50 went on sale on 1976. Its stylish lines came from the larger TL125 and TL250, and it was equipped with a 5-speed transmission.

The TL50 was offered in two colors, dark Green and Red Accent combined glossy White


 


The ENGINE

Displacement: 49cc.
Maximum Power: 4,2PS at 9.500 rpm
Maximum torque: 0,36Kg/m at 7.500 rpm
Ignition: CDI

 
The TRANSMISSION

Five speed

 
The FRAME
Diamond steel

Weight: 80 Kg


 

The Honda TL50 engine, perfect performance Air-Cooled 4-st. Single OHC

 

1976-77 Honda bikes

1976 Honda 305cc       Sammy Miller developed in 1976 this nice Long-stroke 305cc Honda.
With a new frame and the 250cc bored out to 305cc. Softer cams and small bore carburettor along with many hours, produced avery competitive bike.
As Sammy Miller says, only three engines were produced. The number one is today located at Sammy Miller Museum Trust. www.sammymiller.co.uk

More info at: http://www.trialmag.net/trialmag/article/5711/Sammy+Miller+Honda
The engine had 305cc displacement with a compression ratio 8.2:1 and offered 22.5 Hp at 8.00rpm The weight was 90 Kg and was equiped with his own Hi Boy chrome plated Renolds 531 tube Frame.

The ENGINE Air cooled, four.stroke, 4 valve with chain driven camshaft. Displacement: 305cc. Compressin ratio 8.2:1 Power: 22.5 hp at 8.000 rpm
  The TRANSMISSION 5 speed, Rear sprocket 57 teeth and gearbox sprocket 14 teeth
The FRAME Hi boy chrome plated Reinolds tubing weight:  89,8 Kg Wheelbase:  1295.5 mm


1977 Honda 305 long Stroke (RTL 300)



Thanks to Pat from Aspen Cafe to sent me these valuable pictures. Please respect its Copyright.

Rob Shepherd won the British Championship in 1977 with this 305cc long-stroke Honda bike.
Marland whaley from the Honda USA Team also rode with this special machine.    Actually, the 'long stroke' is commonly called RTL 305 and the 'short stroke' RTL 306 because it refers to their actual capacity, but at the time Honda called them both RTL 300 (this is what is stamped on both types of engine). *comments thanks to Jean Caillou.

Today we still can see some units as this one (number 2) on the RTLR Club Europa meeting at Samoens.









The ex-Rob Shepherd RTL 305 'long stroke' made in 1975, that he rode in 1977 to win the British Championship and one World Round in Finland (he also rode a white RTL306 'short stroke' that year, but not so often). Thanks to Jean for this information.

 

 Nice Rob Shepherd replica toy I found on the net. :)

 

 

    © Copyright Mervyn Smith & The Honda Trials History

On the top very nice restored Honda 305 Long stroke. This bike was found by Mervyn Smith in the Honda race workshop at Chiswik in February 1990  by this web site friend Mervyn Smith. Once restored the bike was sent back to the Honda Museum Collection in Japan. We are not sure if they lost again....
Mervyn had the kindness to send me these pictures and the kindness to tell me interesting informations about these Honda old time machines. Mervyn Smith was working at Honda UK in the motorcycle department for 23 years. Not nothing!!
 
© Copyright Mervyn Smith & The Honda Trials History

Mervyn took this picture in 1978 at Greensmith National Trial, Shropshire.
Rider is Rob Sheperd and the section is Crumps Brook. Thanks Mervyn!.

THE ALAN JOHNSON HONDA 305

The Honda Trials History friend Alan Johnson sent me this nice and valuable information about his Honda 305.
 Here is the history of his TL305 and some back ground on himyself.

Alan Johnsosn started riding in trials in North Yorkshire in the1970s. Starting on a Peter Gaunt Suzuki, moving on to a Dalesman and then his first Ossa 250.

His father at this point owned a Honda dealership in Harrogate North Yorkshire where he also sold Ossa. In the early 1970s they gave John Reynolds his first sponsored ride through Cliff Holden at Ossa UK.  John and Alan did all the schoolboy nationals, Alan also had a sponsored Ossa Cantilever 250. After Ossa's demise, he moved on to a Montessa. 

He started to take interest in the then Gaunt Honda (XL250) .This was then produced by Nick Jeffries, known this as the ‘Jeffries Honda’. They had one of these in his showroom, it caused great interest. This was when Rob Shepherd was riding for Honda UK.  Honda then went on to bring  in the little TL125, they did several engine conversions on these to 220cc .This involved a Dixon Racing piston and his own conversion of a long stroke crankshaft. This urged  Alan on to want to ride a 4stroke.

  Honda UK then imported just over 60 TL250's, luckily they managed to get two, one was for himself.

  The bike as standard was less than competitive and needed lots of work, weighing in at 239lbs and 9 inches of ground clearance Alan had to strip it and start from scratch to make it competitive. He had the frame made for him by Keith (ozzy) Horsman  of Silsden, he was well known for his frame work and reed valve conversions for Ossa’s. After many months of testing Keith came up with the frame, at this point it still had the standard tank,seat and exhaust on. The next step was the engine,tank,and exhaust modifications .

  © Copyright The Honda Trials History & Alan Johnson

With knowing Rob Shepard, Nick Jeffries and having rebuilt one of the works 306 engines for Mick Grant it gave him an opportunity and access to some works parts :)  
The exhaust came from Rob+ the works alloy kickstart and also a fibreglass works tank (Alan never used this as it just looked too nice).  Nick Jeffries provided him with all the works carb parts. Whilst rebuilding Mick Grants engine Alan was able to see what had to be modified on the camshaft. The 305 over bore kit again came from Dixon Racing . 

© Copyright The Honda Trials History & Alan Johnson

After he rebuilt the engine  he modified the works exhaust  to fit the new frame and the plan now was to lose as much weight as possible. Our friend Alan fitted lightweight footrests, a dural sump guard and alloy mudguard stays. The fuel tank cover was from a Seeley Honda. The alloy under tank Alan hand formed and welded himself, it only holds 1/2 a gallon of fuel when full. Alan's Honda TL305 now weighed 182lbs and 13 inches of ground clearance this was a vast improvement on the standard bike.

Then started the testing, John Reynolds and Alan spent many hours testing the improved TL against his works Suzuki. It actually proved to be too light, it tended to bounce on rock steps. After weighing John’s Suzuki which was 198lbs Alan decided to put  some weight back on to the Honda. He replaced the alloy kick-start, dural sump guard, alloy mudguard stays and lightweight footrests all replaced with steel even some of the titanium nuts and bolts had to come off to get the bike up to 198lbs.

© Copyright The Honda Trials History & Alan Johnson

Alan Johnson rode the bike for 4 Years and won many awards including best 4 stroke in the Manx  2 day trial in 1980. 

The bike still starts and runs very well. Thanks a lot Alan!! a gripping story!!

Please respect the pictures © Copyright

 

1976 Honda 305 "Long Stroke"

© The Honda trials History, thanks to Mr. Hiroshi Kondo

1976 Honda 305 "Long Stroke"

Mr Hiroshi Kondo had the kidness to sent me this nice picture from 1976 when he rode at SSDT with this very special Honda Works RTL305 long stroke type. He rode later, next year, at World Trials Championship with the upgraded Honda Works RTL 306 Short Stroke type.


1977 Honda 306 Short Stroke (RTL 300)

HIroshi Kondo rode at 1977 World Trials Championship with the upgraded Honda Works RTL 306 Short Stroke type. RTL 300 named by Honda.


Also Marland Whaley was riding at 1978 Scottish Six Days trial, Marland had problems with the machine and retired on Wednesday. After that, Marland ended the Contract with Honda and signed by Montesa starting with the new 310cc prototype.



The pictures of this machine and the Marland Whaley were taken by the friend of this site owner Pat Criou at Oberiberg, Switzerland in 1978.
Please respect the pictures © Copyright         1978, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young
1978, same day picture above, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young  
  Same year, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young   Same day above, Marland Whaley at SSDT with the Honda 306. © Jimmy Young     Still alive Rob's Honda Short Stroke, ex-Nick Jefferies 1976 RTL 306 

1978 Honda 360 RTL

With the goal to improve and potentiate the 305 machine, in 1978 Rob Shepherd received a new engine with a new capacity of 359cc displacement, with 82mm bore and 68mm stroke.

The new engine was capable to give a spectacular 19,8 Hp at 6.500rpm.

This big machine was the most powerfull bike at this time, maybe too much, because as Rob said, the 360 was a hardest bike to ride.

The powerfull 360

Thanks to Jimmy Young for these nice pictures. © Jimmy Young

Rob Shepherd at Scottish Six Days Trial section with the powerfull 360. © Jimmy Young

Rob with number 70 plate at 1978 Scottish Six days Trial. © Jimmy Young

Rob Shepherd in action on an other section of the Scottish Six days Trial. © Jimmy Young

Japanese Honda rider Kiyoteru Hattori also at Scottish Trial. © Jimmy Young

Again Honda rider Kiyoteru Hattori also at Scottish Trial but now in 1980. Picture thanks to Iain Lawrie © who took this nice pic at SSDT Cailliach section. Thanks a lot Iain!


1980-81 Honda RTL 360

 

 

The 1984 Honda RTL 360 at Motegi Museum in Japan

At only 18 years old, Honda gave the powerfull RTL 360 to Eddy Lejeune.
Kiyoteru Hattori was another rider from Honda Trials Team that also rode the RTL 360.

First Honda 360 prototypes were made early 1978, Rob Shepherd was one of the first to ride on this big machine. The new machine was the most powerfull trials bike never made. After several problems at first time, the bike was revised by Honda due to a overheating problems. The History of the RTL 360 was long and difficult to follow, There was a lot of improvements and different prototypes. At same time very few units were made, only works bikes.  The RTL 360 from 1980-81 was made for Eddy due to Shepherd was retiring from World Championship competition in 1980. Then, Lejeune started at Honda Team as the official and number one rider.  This season was 1981 and he rode now with his loved RTL 360. Remember that one year later, in 1982 he won with this wonderfull machine his first World Trials Championship.  

 






This nice picture sent by a friend of this website Pat from Aspen Cafe (French Alps) shows the three historical 360 RTL's 

Number 3: Honda RTL 306 Short Stroke big tank Whaley's SSDT 1977-78 
Number 4: Honda RTL 360 Eddy Lejeune 1982
Number 5: Honda RTL 360 Eddy Lejeune 1984
  Eddy Lejeune, 1982 World Trials Championship, Coll de la Presolana, Italy. Picture thanks to Gabriele Milan from Italy.
In accordance to Tommy Sandham's journalist expert the RTL 360 was the best bike he never rode, on the same way also he reported that in opinion of the top British riders have ridden the bike, it was the best trials bike of the moment.

As telling the 1983 American Motorcycles magazin, Schreiber said "Eddie's an excellent rider, but the bike is also excellent in muddy and wet conditions. 

There is small quantity RTL 360 survivors today. This 1984 RTL 360 pictured one owns at Italian collector. Maybe one of the most expensive Honda trial bikes and of course difficult to see.

  This picture taken by Antonio Maugeri in shows the 1982 Lejeune's RTL 360 Painted all Red color, Silevr grey engine, Silver aluminum wheels, Today, the bike is still alive in France, belongs to a French collector. Thanks for the picture Antonio!!   Thanks to Dean here a nice picture from 1983 World Championship. Eddy Lejeune with the RTL360 83. Eddy Lejeune at World Round in Texas with the Honda RTL360 in 1983 Picture thanks to Albert Wing.    This original one 360 from 1982 owns to my Honda Trials History friend Carlo from Italy. Grazie again Carlo!!
The Engine

Type: Four stroke single OHC 2-Valve, air cooled
Displacement: 359,09 cc
Power: Over 20 hp at 6.000 rpm

The Frame
Type: Diamond tube
Caster angle: 26º
Weight: 88 Kg
Wheelbase: 1300 mm  

Thanks to my friend Patrick Jay for this nice picture from 1980. Eddy at Fully, Switzerland with the 1980 RTL

1976 Honda TL200R (Code 490)


© Picture thanks to Patrick Verrier

1976 TL200R

The RSC Honda TL200R was the first of the dinasty of nice and competitive 200cc RSC Honda trials bikes.
This model started using the TL125 (coming from Honda XL125 engine) 125cc engine (no CDI yet) upgraded to 200cc. Ignition system was the same used on the 1976 TL125 placed at camshaft and covered with the 125cc engraved cap or some times without engraving letters.

This engine was fitted with a extra plate on the flywheel crankcase and one just on the base of the cylinder. Oposite of the TL200R and following RS engine family, this engine had no numbers and no identification.

Take care, no numbers means never engraved, NO DELETED.

 


This bike was offered with two colours petrol tank and seat, White and red. The tubular frame was ever black powder painted. The frame was made in too thin section, only 84Kg weight, (competitors at this time usually had 92-94Kg weight!!)  because of that, had some strength problems.

Carburetot fitted was the little Keihin used on the TL or XL 125 engines, although later on the TL200RII the Honda Racing Service used biger Keihin 22 used on the 200cc engines.


This bike was a super light trials bike at the moment, easy to ride, and with an exceptional engine withan incredible inertia an torque.

This was the Eddy Lejeune's bike used on the beginning of his World Trials Championship, from 1976 to 1979 when he inherited the Sheperd's RTL360. Also the site friend Hiroshi Kondo used this bike at Japan Trials Championship at 1976 and 77.

Thanks again to the friend of this site Hiroshi Kondo to allow me to us these nice pictures. The first Honda TL200R white color. © Hiroshi Kondo for The Honda Trials History web use only.


In opinion of Hiroshi Kondo the bike had the gravity center too high, in fact the second model Hiroshi had, was improved by him reducing this problem.
Eric Lejeune, Eddye's brother, also reported some strengh problems (Trial Classic Magazine very interesting article) and a tendency to lose the ground from the front wheel do tue its low weight. Eddy added 600gr extra weight attached on front suspension bars. 

The singular silencer engraved with the RSC letters was the same that later used the TL200RII and the RS200T. 


Thanks again to Hiroshi Kondo to allow me to us these nice pictures. The improved Honda TL200R red color. © Hiroshi Kondo for The Honda Trials History web use only.

This is one of the nicest and original TL200R I never saw. Except rear shock absorvers all the parts were stricty followed as they originaly were. Thanks to Enric Basté.

Enric made a very hard and professional job on the rebuilding and restoring of this unique bike. Part by par, screw by screw and strictily following its originallity the bike was remade as a jewel. Here you have the result, enjoy!!

 

 



1978 Honda T305L FRASER

© The Honda Trials History 




The Honda FRASER T305L. Thanks again to The Honda Trials History friend Carlo for these nice pics. This unit shows a different painting with silver tank and black painted engine. As FRASER usual, chrome plated finishing was used for the chassis.© The Honda Trials History & Carlo

The T305L Honda Fraser was made by David Fraser Products from Redditch, UK.
Fraser made a new chromium plated frame for the Standard Honda TL250, to reduce the weight. Also in some units enlarged his capacity to 305cc to get more power. The bike was more competitive than the standard TL250. The bike was on sale in UK but I'm not sure about the batch. (most probably a few units)
Thanks to Steve Alderson for this nice T305L picture    Thanks to Martien from Holland for this Fraser frame picture. Here we can appreciate fully naked chromed plated frame.

                        This other one shows full assembled Fraser bike (again thanks to Martien)
  Joan Figols, from Berga, Made this FRASER frame replica. He made some units after testing a T305L FRASER. He told me enjoyed a lot with his maneuverability and driveability.

Joan also made a 305 Long Stroke, Rob Sheperd/Whaley gas tank replica and made this interesting mixture. FRASER frame with TL250 engine (enlarged to 305cc) and 305 look. Thanks Joan to send me these pictures and info.. Joan Figols © Pictures. 



 Some time later, David Fraser Products developed a new and revolutionary bike:

1978 Honda FRASER HT250 


In 1978 David Fraser of Redditch developed this special machine. In this bike he used the XL250S (1978) twin exhaust engine. The bike was kown as Fraser Honda HT250. Small desctription of this bike was related on Tommy Sandham's Honda trials book. (pag 74)

THe HT250 was a very special and rare bike. Today I only have reference from two only HT250 survivors.
One under restoration (Honda Trials History) and second one from Callum Roberston from UK who had the kindness to sent me some pictures.
 
    This one (The Honda Trials History) and still under restoration could be one of the few David Fraser HT250 survivors today.
  Nice restoration (not finished yet) from Joan F. (The Honda Trials History). Here you can see twin exhaust system.   This very competitive trials bike mounted for first time on one trials bike history a unusual intermediate chain.
(later in 1985, JJCobas from Spain applyed same solution on his revolutionary Montesa and Bultaco engine: The JJ Cobas Trials bike)

 This is the later JJ cobas double chain system frame. Picture property of The Honda Trials History webpage. 

 ©The Honda Trials History  
  Funny and clever intermadiate chain system.This unit without tensioner but using half link chain. The Honda Trials History unit.
Same chain system.This unit with tensioner short chain. Callum Roberston unit.

This rare bike was made in a really small series. Less than twenty were built. This second chain comes from gearbox sprocket to countershaft mounted on the swinging arm pivot. The large chain comes from this swinging arm pivot to the rear wheel. The innovative system allows to maintain a constant chain tension without any tensioner help.    

  Thanks to Callum Roberston for these pictures from his HT250. © Pictures Copyright Mr Roberston throught The Honda Trials History.

1979 Honda Pete Jerred

Pete Jerred, a dealer from St. Ives made some special bikes based on the Honda XL125 engine and enlarged to 220cc capacity. Some of these bikes rode at SSDT in 1979. Nick Fossey rode at this SSDT year with this bike, also Nick Holt as you can see in this picture sent by the friend of this site Jimmy Young.

Thanks also to John Moffat I know that was in 1979 Scottish Six Days Trial edittion and the section of this picture was Ben Nevis.

1979 Honda TL200RII


1979 Honda TL200RII (Honda Code 490)


 

The nice TL200RII was biult by RSC, Racing Service Corporation. As the contemporary RS200T and RS220T where produced in a small quantities (360 units white color and 150 red color).
Frame number began from number 2001.
From 2001 to 2360 frame number the TL200RII had a white painted fiver petrol tank, with a vertical transparent strip to see petrol level. Also had the old Honda logotype at both sides. 
Second productions, from 2360 to 2510 were painted in red and finished with the yellow Honda wings decals.


Engine was 197,74cc RSC from Japan developed. This engine is still derived from XL125. First equipped with CDI at camshaft with 1.59 Kg/m maximum torque at 4.000rpm
©Picture thanks to Patrick Verrier, This pictured unit was rebuild using and respecting all the original Honda parts. Also the painting was exactelly as it was produced in 1979. 
The engine number on crankcase began with the RS leters.
Fully engine was painted silver gray. The frame was black painted diamond steel, with also steel swing arm.   Nice original condition TL200RII thanks to good friend of this site Xavi Salvat    
TL200RII had a tubular diamond steel swing arm that later was replaced for the right-angled aluminium one on the RS200T. Front forks were still Showa 31mm diameter that also were replaced on the RS's that mounted strongest ones, 33mm diameter.
If you have additional information please send at honda@onlytial.com

Thanks to Hap Oswald from California, US, for this TL200 picture, a nice start for a great Trials bike restoration.
TL200R at weekend trials in Japan thanks to friend Hiroshi Kondo

1979 Honda RS200TS

1979 The Honda RS200TS

This model used the XR 185 engine upgraded to 200cc by RSC. The bike was thought for a Trail use with a enlarged seat, red painted frame and also red mudguards.
This model was lttle bit far from the competitive Trials RSC dinasty models.
Anyway interesting and nice model, well accepted in several markets as Belgium in Europe.



   Picture thanks to the site friend Patrick Verrier

 


Thanks to Tom Siembab from California to share these two RS 200TS pictures

Nice and very original condition RS 200TS thanks to David Malfait

1979 Honda RS200T & RS220T

© Joan F., The Honda Trials History 

1979 Honda RS200T & RS220T 
(Honda Code NA3)  
The very nice RS200T was built from RSC, Racing Service Corporation mounting a Gasoline engine, air cooled 4-stroke cycle, single cylinder inclined at 15º with 197,74cc displacement.

The RS200T had the frame number following the TL200RII, and began with the 2510.
All these machines were engraved with the name RS200T - XXXX (x means the number)

The RS200T had alloy red painted fuel tank and fiber support seat with oval windows on sides.    
The swing arm were on these units light alloy made, had other details as the perforated rear aluminum axes. Later RS250T had also the front one perforated.   RS200T from Joan F. (The Honda Trials History)  
Replacing the TL200R small front forks the RS200T was 33mm diameter Showa forks. First RS200T bikes had plastic engine plate protector, and later RS220T and RS250T were equiped with strongest aluminum plate. Also shape of the plate was increased a little bit on the side wings. The RS220T was exactelly same construction but increasing engine desplacement from 197.7 cc to 222.4 cc. All these bikes were produced in a really small series.   Picture thanks to UPY Lift Bikes www.upybike.com
  There is several informations saying that around 400 units were made. I don't know exactly the figures, but in my opinion the production was bigger. This nice unit on the pictures  has the 3201 serial number, but seams one of the latest RS200T produced. Knowing that RS200 serial numbers began on 2510 number, at least 690 units were made. Maybe 700 units? 
These 700 units contain the RS200T, RS220T and RS200TS
  Spanish woman rider Alba Villegas riding the Honda Trials History's RS200T in a Catalonia Championship Classic Trials.

The ENGINE Gasoline air cooled 4-stroke Displacement 197,74cc Valve train: Overhead camshaft chain drive Maximum Horspower: RS200T 12.1 at 6.000rpm RS220T 13 at 6.000rpm Maximum Torque: RS200T 1.59 at 4.000rpm RS220T 1.62 at 4.000rpm Compression ratio: RS200T 8.2 RS220T 8.3
Ignition, CDI
The TRANSMISSION 6- Speed transmission constant mesh Clutch: Wet multi-plate type
The FRAME Diamond Type, aluminum swing arm Front suspension 33mm, 70mm travel Rear suspension alumini¡um swing arm 40mm travel Fuel capacity 3 lit Caster angle 26º
The DIMENSIONS Weight RS200T 85.8Kg RS220T 86Kg Wheel base 1314mm Seat heigh 720mm


  Thanks to Eiji Yoshida よしだ えいじ from Japan to send me his nice RS200T picture.      RS200T in a weekend trial in Japan thanks to friend Hiroshi Kondo      

Honda RS220T restored by Xavi Salvat using the Yamamoto colors (three banded). Thanks Xavi!

     

1979 Honda bikes

1979 Honda SEELEY 200    
A very nice restoration (made by La Mola Restoration bikes) made for a friend Spanish collector Thanks to Jimmy Young we can enjoy with this nice picture. Eddy Lejeune rode in 1980 at Scottish Trials with the Honda SEELEY. I was discussing to John Moffat about this unit because we are not 100% sure about the engine. In Moffat's opinion the engine was a RSC 250cc, but I'm not completely sure. About the bike it is clear was a Collin Seeley one. © of the Picture Jimmy Young.
Based on the XL 185 trail bike, and increased to 195cc from Honda Racing Service, the frame builder Colin Seeley made for Honda Uk this little machine and iniitially planned to build 400 units.



First prototypes of this bike were made in 1977 and rode by Rob Shepherd as official pilot achieving the 4th position on his first championship and 10th position at same time by the US rider Marland Wahley.
Also Eddy Lejeune rode his first SSDT in 1980 with the 200 SEELEY, he was 12 position and the Best Newcomer.
Officially dating from 1979, finally I'm not sure about the final production. But, be carefully because there is some "replicas" on the market.

Let me note that this unit (picture on the top) has a wrong exhaust mufler due to the difficult on the finding spares from these rare bikes. The right one was the same as the contemporary RS's mounted (TL200R, TL200RII, RS200T, and RS 220T) wit only one outlet exhaust tube and the RSC engraved logo.

The ENGINE Honda Racing Service engine for trials use Two valves, chain-driven overhead camshaft Displacement 197,7cc Compression Ratio 8.3: 1 Power 12.1 hp at 6.000 rpm Torque 1,98 kg/m at 4.500 rpm 6,77 Kg/Cv
The TRANSMISSION 6 speed, constant mesh
The FRAME Diamond frame tubing Wheelbase 1285 mm Footrest height 400mm Weight 82,6 Kg Front suspension: Marzocchi trial 170mm

Nice 1979 SEELEY restoration sent by Stuart.    Two nice pictures from our friend site Joakim from Sweden. Just finished restoration. Take a look at number plate...the Honda Trials History logo sticker, thanks Joakim!     A nice Seeley 200 in a Lakeland Beck, thanks to Andrew Stoker from Hawukshead, UK
 
  From Italy and thanks to the friend of this site Paolo Razzini two nice pictures from his very nice restored SEELEY. Thanks Paolo!

1979 Honda Fraser 125

Many thanks to Ramon Seuba to have the kindness to inviting me to take this pictures from his nice restored Fraser DMW frame. The picture was edited by The Honda Trials History.
Thanks also to Patrick verrier for the additional information and documents sent to me.
I also would like to thank to the friends of The Honda Trials History Patrick Verrier and Olivier for its special collaboration on this FRASER DMW folder.
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A revolutionary concept.

In 1979 David Fraser of Redditch made this revolutonary bike concept. He used a frame based on the idea to use the gas tank as part of the frame.
I'm not 100% sure about following, but as I know, DMW (Dawson Motors Wolverhampton) developed these frames, Fraser bought 20 of them and assembled 8 using 2 stroke Villers engine and 12 using the Honda 4 stroke 125cc from the TL 125. 


First units were assembled using a 250cc engine from Villers as the old picture shows (thanks to The Honda Trials history friend Olivier)


First units were assembled using a 250cc engine from Villers as the old picture shows (thanks to The Honda Trials history friend Olivier)

This old document, is a funny picture found by the friend Olivier, from a Japanese book taken at SSDT 82-83. XL125 Honda engine is fitted in this unit.


Probably the only TY engine fitted. Rare Fraser


The Fraser DMW frame naked. Very impressive, gas tank-frame on a central tube with Honda XL125 engine fitted. The front pipe was special to well adapt Honda-Showa front forks


On this picture frame covered with glass fiver coque. Again Honda engine fitted


Probably the first Fraser DMW Honda XL125 (150cc capacity enlarged) engine assembled. For this unit the cover was made in aluminum. Unlike the following units assembled with Honda-Showa front suspension, this one used the old MP 35mm well known on the Pre 65's 
  Thanks to Donald form Belgium for this picture!

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